Before the unpredictable due to disputes related to the South China Sea, Philippine strengthening fund for defense procurement plans, including the Type 212 submarines.
Information on the procurement of the Navy submarine Philippines is the press agency of the government said in a statement.
"We need to accelerate the process of modernizing the military for self-defense needs, the Philippines is the natural transit point in the Pacific, and now we are considering whether to require submarine fleet or not".
Although this statement is only hinted about the possibility of buying submarines but the Philippines Navy Mb news site in late 2015 revealed entirely different information.
According to the source, the Philippine Navy has something to Germany an unspecified number of naval officers to learn to drive submarines.
Based on the information above, almost certain that the Philippines has decided to buy at least two Type 212 submarines produced by Germany. However not clear when the official Philippines ordered submarines.
According to the recommendation of the manufacturer, the Type 212 series is equipped with the technology of the NATO military climax.
Most especially the air propulsion system independently AIP helps Type 212 submarine dive with longer time, far exceeding the maximum dive time of 636 Kilo-class Russian submarines or French Scorpene.
What makes the difference of the Type 212 is that they are designed unique hydrodynamics allows it to work in the deep waters just 17 meters away. It allows access to the coast closer than any submarines in the world.
In addition, the Type 212 is made from a type of steel is not magnetic helped create it completely invisible to the magnetic detection devices (MAD) mounted on submarines, aircraft and helicopters underground hunting Underground hunting. In other words, it fully immunized before the device's MAD US, NATO or Russia.
In particular, the engine capacity on the submarine Type 212 AIP has been proven. 4/2006 month Type 212 submarine U-32 numbers set a record for non-nuclear submarines constantly diving distance of 1,500 nautical miles without surfaced.
May 5/2013, submarine U-36 was up another record when diving continuously for 18 days without using snorkel.
On muscle strength, Type 212 submarines are equipped with 533mm torpedo tubes 6 can deploy various types of modern torpedoes. For example, homing torpedoes with a range DM2A4 optic cable up to 50 km; Mod.3 WASSS A184 torpedo; Black Shark torpedoes and anti-ship cruise missiles, Harpoon.
The near future, Germany is attempting to develop cruise missile has a range of further land for deployment for Type 212.
Still worse in Kilo 636 cruise missile systems, but the Type 212 submarine offset property formidable antiaircraft fire system IDAS guided missile has a range of fiber to 20 km (beyond us shoulder-style air defenses on the Russian submarine).
More specifically, the Type 212 design launchers for UAVs 3 reconnaissance missions, as well as a small 30-mm cannon Murane can support activities underwater warfare.
Based on the task can be completed by Type 212 shows, a Philippine official when signing the contract with German manufacturer this will also mean the Type 212 diesel-electric submarine is the world's leading struggled in the South China Sea.
(Soha)
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BalasHapusAny country who wishes to start submarine force is certainly difficult. All countries experience the same, but with determination and assistance from the provider of the submarines, they could be an excellent fighting force. It goes same also with Indonesia, Indonesia had difficulty when they first acquired their first submarine from the Russian in 1959 with their first sub - KRI Tjakra (Hull No. 401) and the following 11 Whiskey Class subs and in the late 50s and early 60s the Whiskey Class was one of the most modern subs, but still Indonesia became professional submariners. So, I disagree with your notions that the Philippines could not do as well.
HapusDon't compare Indonesia with Philippines.Philippines is the worst equipped in south east Asia.No submarine infrastructure at the moment for submarines to dock.Submarine MRO also cost a lot in the Long term.Pinoy's military Budget not enough to pay.
HapusI have to agree with you. Even when malaysia buy the scorpene, they bought an agosta as well. The agosta(an old mini sub) came a few years before the scorpene in order to familiarise the rmn sailors on how to operate a submarine. You cant just buy new stuff and act like you know everything about it. Next, a submarine is much more expensive than most warships(corvette and light frigate). The pinoy cant even afford to buy a proper light frigate, how do you expect them to buy a submarine especially western submarine? The operational cost for a submarine is also very high. With such a small budget, i doubt they could manage to operate it.
HapusThe buy budget for subs supporting stuff can be 4-5x more expensive the the subs price it self. Not to say the operational cost of the subs and all the supporting stuff.
HapusSo yes, everyone can have their dream... but thats it. A dream.
Everybody allow to dreams...including our neighbour Pinoy...
BalasHapusGermany will never sell their best technology which is type 212.At most sell type 209,210,214,216 or 218.Pinoy's dream is fat hope.
BalasHapusIndonesia experiences with Whiskey clasa is not a rosy ones, it was a bitter ones instead. From 12 boats, not all operational at the same times, mostly u just found two to three boats ready at deployment at any moments. Most being scrapped because of improper crew and lack of needed infrastructure and money to repair them regularly
BalasHapusEvery change the system from people to government..and it has something with the filipino government today. They are the best armed forces with best military instructor ehich other asran country dors not have. I just believe in our filipino friends talent and determination rather than other asean country.
BalasHapusEvery change the system from people to government..and it has something with the filipino government today. They are the best armed forces with best military instructor ehich other asran country dors not have. I just believe in our filipino friends talent and determination rather than other asean country.
BalasHapusYou got to be kidding or drunk when you wrote that statement.
HapusA new complex system like a subs need more than talent and determination. If those two thing were enough for them,than they may still using the F5 and many other system which they once own. What malaysian do to keep s61 nuri flies is what you call talent and deternination.
Subs are far to complex to handle with only talent and determination. BUDGET, is the key, remember a subs need a lot more supporting stuff than a corvette or their new hamilton class frigate. Even thailand, the first country that operates subs in south east asia were incapable to maintain their fleet..
I do hope the phillipines can afford their subs, but they need to wakeup from the bed first. It will take another 10-15years before they can afford this stuff.
As i said those neighbor aroubd philippines are mostly inexperienced anf no talent that is why they cant handle those difficult high end equipment..i knew well our filipino friend they have the best engineer in the world..my co worker here in bonn germany in SAP is a philippines..they"re thr best..that is why dont under estimate my philippines if you cannot handle those high tech military equipment as they can
HapusMost first time car drivers in the Philippines buy honda civic cars and miraculously they have survived. So The Philippine Navy can also sink the type 212 submarine miraculously. Dont underestimate the Filipino skills.Lol
BalasHapusMake the submarine sinking is easy, but how to make the sub able to surface again is questioned :)
HapusEven Rich country like Singapore start with old sub 60's Archer class before getting the new one type 218 sub. Get sub type 206 first, before mulling the latest sub. That's called smart
@bastomi : good point. Sinking every ship is the easy.
Hapus@bastomi: as i said mind your own business.never underestimate your neighbor as you do.. you too cant handle yourself..how selly you are
HapusMost first time car drivers in the Philippines buy honda civic cars and miraculously they have survived. So The Philippine Navy can also sink the type 212 submarine miraculously. Dont underestimate the Filipino skills.Lol
BalasHapusYou are boastful like your ugly face.
HapusThey use honda because it is most sophisticated even here in germany we have a lot of honda cars here..unlike malaysian made cars i remembered its low class and much worst than made in china cars..so where is proton now?garbage
HapusOur malaysian and indonesian friend dont be boastful with your armed forces.make move because in just one time attack of china in just one day boooooommmmmm.your finish...dont look yourself that your good and strong already. Your armed forces still young and inexperienced.so better love your neighbor such philippines rather than under estimeting them..ok
BalasHapusMany are idiots here who make negative comments about the Philippines plan to buy a sub..some even say that the country has no place to dock the sub..what pity..they forgot that Philippines has a naval base formerly used by the Americans.. And many sub from other countries dock also anywhere in the country...some underestimated the capability of the Filipinos to operate a sub..they forgot that 1/3 of sea going vessels in the world are controlled by Filipino seamans because they are skilled and can adapt easily because Filipinos by nature are navigators, they are surrounded by water and are expert mariners
BalasHapus.some say the country cannot afford.. They forgot that Philippines economy has one of the fastest growth rate in Asia...overtaking any economies... Don't underestimate the Filipinos easily..someday they will knock at your doorstep..without you knowing..
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