01 Februari 2017
MRSS model by PT PAL (photo : Malaysian Defence)
Multirole Support Ships (MSS) will soon be helping to safeguard Malaysian waters, said naval chief Ahmad Kamarulzaman Ahmad Badaruddin.
He confirmed the decision of the government to acquire the MRSS after being informed by Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein, and referred to his tweet, which read: “#15to5 on track! #LMS (Littoral Mission Ships) ready to go #MRSS next. Thank you Sir! @HishammuddinH2O.”
The Royal Malaysian Navy is reducing its fleet from 15 to five classes of vessels. Old ships which are too expensive to maintain are being retired and sold, with the money used to buy new vessels.
Last Thursday, after a retreat in Subang Jaya to discuss with armed forces brass the future directions of the ministry, Hishammuddin told reporters that new assets must be purchased by 2020.
"I just want the best assets for the country and I want the best assets for the military. That is my duty as the Defence Minister," he said.
Ahmad Kamarulzaman did not say how many MRSS would be bought, but the RMN is to have 18 LMS and six Littoral Combat Ships.
The LCS are equipped with four-dimensional warfare capabilities against electronic, air, surface and underwater threats integrated with state-of-the-art systems.
The LCS, estimated to be worth RM9 billion, will also be equipped with stealth capability which reduces radar reflection to minimise visibility and detection. The ships,
to be built by Malaysia's Boustead Naval Shipyard in Indonesia, will also be capable of rapid launch and recovery of boats.
The LMS will be developed in China in a joint venture between Boustead and China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Co Ltd.
The missile-carrying patrol vessels, equipped with a helicopter deck, are usually used in patrolling the coastal lines and search and rescue missions. They are expected to
cost not more than RM250 million each.
(Bernama)
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Sudah dipasti malaysia beli MSS dari PT.PAL. Pertanyaannya berapa unit yang mau di beli ?
BalasHapusKalau kita baca di berbagai blok pesanan Malaysia lebih besar dan lebih canggih dari yang pernah di bikin PAL untuk TNI maupun Philippine .Masalahnya Malaysia lagi menghadapi kesulitan ekonomi saat ini . Tapi ada berita baik harga minyak mentah dunia akan kembali naik ketingkat wajar karena negara -negara peng export minyak sudah sepakat mengurangi produksi minyak .Akibatnya pendapatan Malaysia akan ikut naik ,seperti yang kita tahu sumber penghasilan utama Malaysia adalah minyak mentah . Dengan naiknya harga minyak bumi maka otomatis harga karet alam juga ikut naik karena harga karet sintetis yang berasal dari kilang minyak bumi juga akan naik . Malaysia sebagai mana Indonesia juga penghasil karet utama dunia.
Masih belum deal pak beli kapal dimana, jumlah berapa, spesifikasinya apa, isi beritanya hanya menjelaskan isi twitter menteri pertahanan malaysia bahwa parlemen menyetujui pembelian kapal dari yang diminta 15 jadi hanya 5
HapusCMIIW
Para pecinta militer Malaysia tak usah malu beli dari Indonesia ,karena artinya Malaysia punya uang untuk membeli .
Hapuskalau Malaysia beli dari Indonesia @ PT PAL, ertinya Malaysia memang tiada wang!
Hapusertinya tu msia nak dapat duit lebih,songlap lebeh....dan nak kaut untung banyak...wat nak beli ring,handbag ,diamon and kangkung
Hapustak salah beli dari indonesia. tapi nampak gayanya ada seorang mamat ni macam tak nak malaysia beli dari indonesia sebab takut ada kes songlap. tak perlu risau sebab kalau ada songlap, indonesia yang akan dapat duit songlap tu ya pak cik suwandaru.
HapusIni pada songlap songlopan dari kemaren apaan sih? Ga ngerti.
HapusSuwandru
HapusCorruption happen in every country in the world. Not just malaysia and I beleive it happen in your country also right?
So what with the provocation?
Cant we all behave like a proper person in this blog?
Soo songlap=corruption? Is that tge meaning of songlap?
Hapusyes sir. songlap=corruption or a type of corruption to be more precise.
HapusIs songlap same as bribery?(suap in indonesian)
Hapussonglap is like paying more than usual and the extra money were taken by the government official. it happen in every country so not really exclusive to malaysia only. however, sometimes the stupid politician compare the cost to buy x thing with y thing which is obviously stupid. for example, they compared the price of the lcs(gowind class) with the gdp class of the pn and the clueless citizen just believe them blindly. i mean how can you compare the price between a 21st century design ship with a secondhand 50s design ship of different class. of course, i agree that the lcs cost too much eventhough its armament is just slightly better than the pkr 10514 but what do i know. maybe the system inside and transfer of technology made the rise in price.
HapusStupid Title! what confirmed? Did Malaysian government signed any MOU, LoU OR agreement? which shipyard involved? which design/models chosen by the Navy? All just merely talk, twitter, FB or speculations!
BalasHapusStop dreaming! Until it was signed Officially, nothing confirmed then!
agreed. sometimes the media keep on giving misleading title just to attract readers.
HapusI noticed, this is longer (based on model) than the PN's Tarlac class. Would that be correct?
Hapusaccording to pt pal, the ship is longer than the makassar class they were based on which is also the based model for the tarlac class.
HapusBro Saiful
HapusEasy on the language and we need to respect each other regardless of their nationality and background
And if you wondering I am too a malaysian
I don't know if you know this, but the Malaysian government has already signed a MOU with PT PAL a few years back. The MOU states a requirement of a couple MRSS ships based on the Makassar class of the TNI. Sure it's not a LOU or LOI, etc. So when the Malaysian Government has the funds, they will buy the ships (However, I will acknowledge there is a small chance the deal will never go through in the first place). I will link an article below. The article includes the specifications, ship builder & Time Frame for the MRSS. Try and do your research before spewing out false accusations.
Hapushttp://www.malaysiandefence.com/indonesia-sojourn/
HonHon
HapusI suggest reading again the site, the MOU is only between PT PAL and Boustead, thats only a company-to-company MOU. Its not a company-to-government MOU. The MOU only states the Boustead will promote the ship locally and will co-operate with PT PAL if the design is chosen.
bang ipul dom dom kelamaan dipenjara keknya nich. makanya begaul pul, begaul..jgn cuman usilin anak kemaren sore dirume haha! godem jg pala luh!
Hapusuda lama main disini masih aje gak yunow, nich beritanya : 3 biji SSV buat kampung ente pul okeh
http://defense-studies.blogspot.co.id/2016/12/pt-pal-masih-selesaikan-desain-kapal.html
Anas
HapusI agree, the MOU is only between company to-company. However, with the current state of the Malaysian economy and also to ensure that the RMN's 15to5 plan makes progress. There is a high chance that the government will strike a deal with PT PAL for the MRSS. It's very likely that whatever stated in the MOU will go through. The MOU actually did state the type and estimated number of ships that will be sold. Yes, I admit just a single tweet does not mean that the deal has been struck. But it does mean that the MRSS choosen by the RMN will be the Makassar Class LPD as there is no other cheaper alternative at the moment.
how much songlap??
BalasHapus1 trillion Rupiah!
HapusMalaysia should buy 'downsize' version of DOKDO LPD from South Korea OR improve ver. of 'San Giorgio' class from Italy (the same one bought by Alerian Navy).
BalasHapusBoth are proven design, can carry/accommodate bigger helicopter like Chinook, thanks to large Helicopter deck/landing area!
if they have enough budget, sure why not. however, if they have not enough money than they just have to make do with the makassar class lpd. its not like we have big helicopter like the chinook anyway.
HapusMalaysia should buy Mistral class from France if get enaugh money but actually ...
HapusTwo ex-Russia bought by Egypt are too big for Malaysia. also not wise to have very big LPD without protection from Air Defence Frigate, which are definitely more expensive than Mistrals and beyond Malaysia financial means!
HapusBut Malaysia could negotiate to buy 1 or 2 Italian Navy 'San Giorgio' class who soon will be replaced by brand new LHD 21,000 tonne class LHD. The Italian Navy already invited many navies to have a look at their current vessels (for sale of course) as Italian already busy inducting new generation warships in their fleets!
So you'd rather have your country buy a second hand ship just for the sake of having fancy western made stuff? I mean yeah sure the San Giorgio class is more advanced but it's basically more Mistral like than Makassar like. Which is a complete 180 degree turn from your argument against buying Mistrals because they're "too big" and "need to be protected by Anti Air Frigates".
HapusI'd rather buy brand new Makassar class or a more adcanced derivative even if it's neither fancy nor western made. It's cheaper, it has a longer range/endurance and the sea lift capacity is almost the same (M: 40 IFV vs SG: 36 tracked troop carrier or 33 medium tanks). It makes more sense if Malaysia has a limited budget. Buying second hand ships means costly maintenance because of the age of the ship itself.
i have to agree with anonymous. the makassar can fulfill the task rmn want to use it for. why waste money buying second hand ship that is expensive to maintain when there are cheaper alternative. the rmn chief himself said he want to retire old ship as they are maintainance extensive and cost a lot to operate. there's no way in hell he will agree to buy a secondhand ship of that size.
HapusRMN obviously professional enough to decide what best for them, as long as there is no political pressure/interfere with MAF requirement as happened with the utterly stupid decisions to purchased 'brand new' yet useless Mig-29 and overprice Lekiu Frigates!
HapusSince Najib regime clearly run out of monies to buy brand new ships i.e Makasar LPD, buying/upgrading 2nd hand yet proven design warships with NATO standards like San Giorgio still very much a viable options.
The fact that RMN already operate Italian origin vessels with Italian made BMS, Radar, Fire Control and weapons will fit nicely to RMN training regimes. Also San Giorgio flight decks far more bigger/wider than Makasar as its allow friendly country with bigger copter/planes like Chinook/MV-22 Osprey to roam and land there, which is vital during international humanitarian & disaster missions, compare to Makasar very limited flight deck spaces.
@Saiful Azmi H,Produksi alat militer Indonesia mengikuti standar Nato termasuk produksi kapal dari PT.PAL.
HapusKalau RMN mau deck besar tinggal pesan sesuai keinginan .Pal pasti akan mengikuti kemauan costumer ,masalahnya semakin besar tentu semakin mahal .Kalau RMN mau mengeluarkan uang lebih pasti akan bisa di wujudkan .
PAL berhasil mengalahkan beberapa galangan kapal ternama dunia dalam perebutan kontrak SSV Philippine karena mampu memenuhi keinginan Philippine .
Which why I mention.... 'Since Najib regime clearly run out of monies to buy brand new ships'!
Hapus..hence buying 2nd hand LPD would be the best or only option for RMN who obviously could not afford new one!
ade bonus ring,hand bag and diamon ke?????
BalasHapusada. nanti kalau dapat ring, hand bag dan diamond tu, aku pos ke rumah kau. sila bagi alamat untuk memudahkan kerja.
Hapuspak cik suwandaru sebenarnta mahu Cincin Goblok untuk bagi sama Sundel Bolong betina kegilaannya!
HapusElah bro-bro Malay orang gila macam Suwandaru kok diladenin terus. Dia lagi cari perhatian, makin ditanggapin makin senang bro. Mungkin dia kurang perhatian orang tua waktu kecil.
Hapushaha saja mahu melayan. biasanya aku buat tak tahu je dengan comment dia.
HapusMaybe we should leave him alone. Than he will remain silent forever. Like anonymous said he just want attention
HapusWhy not choosing from PT PAL. We should learn from something from our neighbour. Budget is the main issue now. Get knowledge to build one first and later on who knows we might design and build ourselves. No point opting expensive design or model but cracking head to maintain. Remember, maintenance is real deal later on.
BalasHapusWhy not choosing from PT PAL. We should learn from something from our neighbour. Budget is the main issue now. Get knowledge to build one first and later on who knows we might design and build ourselves. No point opting expensive design or model but cracking head to maintain. Remember, maintenance is real deal later on.
BalasHapusWhy not choosing from PT PAL. We should learn from something from our neighbour. Budget is the main issue now. Get knowledge to build one first and later on who knows we might design and build ourselves. No point opting expensive design or model but cracking head to maintain. Remember, maintenance is real deal later on.
BalasHapusUnreasonable choice buy second hand vessel. However steel have lifetime. Why seller sell their old vessel? Because he know, bad reason to use that garbage.
BalasHapusit would be a good decision to buy vessels from PT PAL, we should support our neighbours and buy from them and learn a thing or two from them. We should even consider ST Marines as it is a very capable ship builder.
BalasHapusi wonder how much the endurace cost. if its not much different in price with the makassar, than i think it will be considered by rmn. the only problem is whether st marine offer it or not.
HapusTo the Malaysian who gave a negative comment in this blog, STOP IT! Enough badmouthing our neighbor. We are not any better than they are.
BalasHapusAnd in the issues of purchasing ship from Indonesia, understand this, the ship will be build according to the requirement of RMN which makes it better than Makassar class. Even PT PAL admit its gonna be the hardest project they ever received.
You prefer Ship from Korea or France? We need three MRSS. With the price tag put on their ship, we can only afford one ship.
So stop undermine Indonesia and start used your brain before typing something you'll regret!
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HapusTo the Malaysian who gave a negative comment in this blog, STOP IT! Enough badmouthing our neighbor. We are not any better than they are.
BalasHapusAnd in the issues of purchasing ship from Indonesia, understand this, the ship will be build according to the requirement of RMN which makes it better than Makassar class. Even PT PAL admit its gonna be the hardest project they ever received.
You prefer Ship from Korea or France? We need three MRSS. With the price tag put on their ship, we can only afford one ship.
So stop undermine Indonesia and start used your brain before typing something you'll regret!
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Hapusmalaysia kan kaye..naper tak vote jer lhd indon????pt pal ada buat penawaran dulu pada tni al untuk bina lhd amphibi dengan basic kapal star 50...pt pal pernah bina kapal star 50 dengan berat 50.000 tan...mesti lah jadi lhd yg sangat besar...harusnyer malaysio pilih lhd pt pal dengan basic star 50
BalasHapusi know they can built it but the fact remain that they have never built an lhd or any warship of that size. i would not want my country to be the test subject of something that might not even be possible to be built by pt pal. better buy an upgrade version of makassar class or endurance class. heck, i would prefer the chinese lpd more than a 50000 ton lhd than have never been built.
HapusAgreed with luqman. Malaysia have a very limited budget on defence sector so it would be too risky for us to buy new design that have not been build and tested. Dont get me wrong because I am not trying to undermine PT PAL capabability. In terms of experiences I think PT PAL is much better than BNS. Just my 2 cents. I stand to be corrected.
HapusSuwandru
HapusI tought you guys hate the word "indon" because the meaning of the word is not good. So why did you use it in your comment?
Dyslexic and malay guys you know he's retarded right? No sane self respecting indonesian would use the term "indon". Either: a. He's a false flagger or b. He's just a retarded attention whore. Either way why don't we all just ignore him from now on? He'll get bored and fuck off when we ignore him long enough.
HapusSuwandaru, lebih baik kita berkomentar dengan cerdas. Tunjukkan bahwa kita, orang Indonesia bermartabat. Jangan memandang rendah dan mengolok-olok orang lain.
BalasHapustertarik dengan kalimat "The ships,
BalasHapusto be built by Malaysia's Boustead Naval Shipyard in Indonesia" apakah malaysia sudah membeli galangan kapal di indonesia atau BNS yang sudah pindah ke indonesia??
the shipyard is pt pal's. its just that bns will work together with pt pal if the contract is given to them.
HapusPT PAL's Makassar class will surely suit the budget of RMN. It has been performing well so far for PN except for the collision incident. I have reason to believe that PN is very satisfied at how it is performing and fulfilling its duties right now. Plus PT PAL delivers on time.
BalasHapusAwas nanti dikata nanti MRSS buatan malon hahaha
BalasHapusDasar Nadine Ivana antek Ahok, sukanya mengadu domba antar sesama muslim, malu maluin Indonesia saja kau
HapusDasar Nadine Ivana antek Ahok, sukanya mengadu domba antar sesama muslim, malu maluin Indonesia saja kau
HapusHahaha...dari kemarin2 sampean ngatain saya antek ahok,antek cina...knp sampean benci cina,sampean tau gk kl salah satu wali songo itu adalah keturunan cina,dan sampean tau gk laksamana cheng ho penyebar agama islam adalah orang cina,sampean ngaku islam tapi rasis...istighfar bro,kalo sampean gk suka ahok jgn judge semua orang cina itu jahat...islam gk pernah mengajarkan rasis bro
HapusDibaca yg bener.. Sy bilang antek Ahok, bkn anti cina
HapusBkn cm walisongo smp sekarang masih byk tokoh dr etnis tionghoa yg menyebarkan islam spt Ustadz Felix Siauw.
Masalah nya Bkn cina atau bukan. Jgn suka mengadu domba, Indonesia-Malaysia ndro.
Dibaca yg bener.. Sy bilang antek Ahok, bkn anti cina
HapusBkn cm walisongo smp sekarang masih byk tokoh dr etnis tionghoa yg menyebarkan islam spt Ustadz Felix Siauw.
Masalah nya Bkn cina atau bukan. Jgn suka mengadu domba, Indonesia-Malaysia ndro.
Halah bro sampean itu suka ngeles,dari kemarin2 ngomongin cina,reklamasi pantai jakarta dijual ke orang cina,cina menguasai indonesia,komunis cina akan menguasai indonesia,apa orang cina itu semuanya komunis,mikir bro...saya bkn antek ahok,saya jg tdk provokasi malaysia vs indonesia,tapi saya membela bangsa saya yg dikatain indon,indon bodoh,pemalas dan babu di forum ini...kalo sampean gk suka komen saya membela bangsa saya,saya ora urus okey,uruslah komen2 rasismu bro...wassalam
BalasHapusSo try to tackle racism with racism
HapusGood job bro
despite of all the uncertainty of funding with RMN 15 to 5 class of ship program, i still think reducing the type rating used is a great idea. I seriously think that TNI-AL should do the same. Our equipment type rating is merrier than ever.
BalasHapusGood for malaysia choose korea or france to build your ship except indonesian made
BalasHapus@ha..ha you are just anti Indonesian ...so shut up your dirty mount.
Hapusfunny thing is that the only country that currently operate indonesian made warship beside indonesia is philippine.
HapusIte because philippines choose to be considerate with neighboring country specifically INDONESIA.better take note CONSIDERATE and respect ASEAN.so we decided to buy first indonesian made ships.you got it.
HapusSo if you are a citizen with full of hatred and no knowledge of international cooperation, you better shup up mr. Luqman and the rest who thought they are good.
Indonesian products are much worst than chinese.thats the fact. We dont buy indons military parts or hardware.
BalasHapusKomentar ini telah dihapus oleh pengarang.
HapusLem1# fact,malon is really stupid country in the world,no one military product can be eksported by malon..
BalasHapusMalon is really stupid n dumb
easy there bro. first of all,lem1 said his from france. secondly, that guy have been saying bad things about both malaysia and indonesia. he always praise philippine, eventhough that country is even more corrupt than malaysia and indonesia. finally, that guy thinks we malaysian and indonesian who are from third world country(that's what he said, i don't agree) are stupid and can't do things properly like france which is a first world country.
HapusHoy luqman....your indonesian and malaysian are more corrupt than the philippines. Your government are good in hiding those corruption happening in your society.shut up
HapusYou're the most patriotic Philippino I've ever met. I noticed every post you make almost always puts the Philippines first compared to other ASEAN countries. If only you can set aside your ignorance and ego for a moment. I'm sure you will get you point across with ease. How Sad.
Hapusread this:
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