29 Januari 2019

F-35B Fighter Aircraft for the HTMS Chakri Naruebet ?

29 Januari 2019


HTMS Chari Naruebet (photo : Royal Thai Navy)

Compare the F-35B fighter aircraft with the AV-8B attack aircraft in operations on the Royal Chakri Naruebet

Guidelines for the supply of fixed-wing aircraft for the Royal Chakri Naruebet which is the first aircraft carrier of the Thai Navy and in Southeast Asia that had been analyzed earlier due to the economic crisis in the year 1997, causing the Thai Navy to be greatly affected by cuts in defense budgets during this period making it impossible to procure any new STOVL (Short Take Off and Vertical Landing), whether the Sea Harrier FA.2 fighter plane of the Royal Navy that was decommissioned in 2006 or the McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II+ aircraft of the US Marine Corps of the company Boeing, the US closed the production line in 2003.


A retired AV-8S of the Royal Thai Navy (photo : teerawut)

Despite the fact that the supply of the AV-8B Harrier II+ is a surplus of US Marines that will be decommissioned after the introduction of the Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II JSF (Joint Strike Fighter). Substitution in some herds would be less likely because the US Marines would take the F-35B fighter aircraft in place of the fighter aircraft F/A-18A/B/C/D Hornet in some groups as well, which led to the gradual procurement of the F-35B. The US Marines will continue to use Hornet and their Harrier II for a while before by looking to improve their AV-8B Harrier II + with a pilot's hat attached to the display HMCS (Helmet-Mounted Cueing System) makes the US Marines unlikely to have excess equipment available for sale before being decommissioned in 2026.

However, the Harrier II+ of the United States Marine Corps with production lines in the 1990s will last for more than 25 years, but as with the AV-8S Harrier and TAV-8S (two-seat training model), 2 types that were used in Naval Aviation Division Battle Squadron of the Royal Thai Navy that if the command set was not modified to be able to use the Raytheon AIM-120 Air Medium to Range Air-to-Air Missile range, like the model sent to the Spanish Navy and Italian Navy It's hard to call Harrier II+ as a "fighter plane", but Harrier II+ is often compared to being the most feasible option that the F-35B provides for operations in HMS Chakri Naruebet by reasoning that the F-35B is too heavy to park on the flight deck the jet from the engine is hot until the deck penetrates, large and overloaded, lifted into the hangar under the deck.


A retired A-7E Corsair II of the Royal Thai Navy (photo : Wiki)

In summary, the procurement of the AV-8B Harrier II+ and TAV-8B Harrier II (two-seat training model) includes 9 machines according to the demand for replacement of AV-8S fighter aircraft and the aircraft attacked the 1st Battalion A-7E and TA-7C (two-seat training version), 104 Squadron, 1 Airborne Division, 16 units that had been decommisioned. If it had to happen, it should have been done since the AV-8S was decomissioned in the year 2006. It is also very difficult for the Thai Navy to supply at least 4 new F-35Bs because of the very expensive price. Causing if there is enough budget, should go to procure more ships or aircraft that are needed. But the question is, in terms of the features of both aircraft would it be true that the F-35B could not come to be operating on? Can HMS Chakri Naruebet replace Harrier? So let's look at the comparative data of both aircraft in the operation up on the helicopter carrier first.



Bringing the winged aircraft to Short Take Off and Vertical Landing, such as the AV-8B or F-35B, landing on that ship, normally, the aircraft will fly from the airport on the shore, then flew to land on a boat at sea, which the pilot must check the weight of the machine whether it is under weight, the maximum landing weight or not/ In the case of flying from the airport on the shore without any weapons or equipment on the machine, the weight is still too high to be able to land. Will have to dispose of some fuel (dumping) from the device in order to reduce weight until able to float to land the vertical direction like flying from a helicopter carrier using a short runway, where the machine will be equipped with weapons and fuel in the load that runs up from the ship and when returning to land on the ship, if the weapon is not used It is necessary to disarm the equipment or the jettison fuel tank to reduce the weight.


That makes the helicopter-run cargo ship Ski-Jump able to make the AV-8B Harrier II or F-35B Lightning II fly by installing more weapons. And can use shorter runners. If compared to a helicopter carrier with a smooth deck throughout the ship or for the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth class of the United Kingdom Navy with a long flight deck leading the F-35B using a vertical landing method using SRVL: Shipborne Rolling Vertical Landing. In general, the AV-8B Harrier II or F-35B Lightning II will land on the same helicopter carrier as the rotary wing aircraft. Is flying towards the deck of the ship then fly floating alongside the ship then slowly tilt the device into the deck.


For the AV-8B Harrier II, pilots must choose the flight mode as VSTOL. Flap leveling is a STOL adjust the cooling water injection engine model to TO, in case of flying up or LDG, in case of landing, set the limit barrier, the lever to adjust the angle of the throttle beside the throttle. In the run-up from the ship, the AV-8B will run up by adjusting the jet tube angle at 0-30 degree to increase speed before the machine runs to the end of the flight deck. The boat will adjust the jet pipe angle to 60 degree to increase the first lift. When the speed is high enough, it will adjust the angle of the jet to 0 degree. Mode, fly, NAV, flap to Auto and turn off the water. As for the landing on the ship, the AV-8B must have a total weight of less than the maximum landing weight. Reduce the speed of the machine towards the stern, adjust the flight flap mode and water. Adjust the jet tube angle to 90 degree to float at the same speed as the ship. Alongside the ship and tilting before landing on the flight deck.


The Harrier family is the first model that has been designed since the 1970s. Even the second generation Harrier II will have improved avionic systems and more advanced Flight Control flight control systems. But it is considered very limited, in particular, the engine must be checked not to overheat the limit until it fails. Therefore, compared to the F-35B to force the machine to land or fly from the ship, it is much easier to control. By simply pressing the ON button to turn off the VTOL mode once. The Turbofan engine model, Pratt & Whitney F135-PW-600 and Rolls-Royce Lift System Lift Fan, enter the STOVL model, which controls the STO model or floating HOVER can be selected from the large touch screen (LAAD: Large Area Avionics Display), which will help the pilot control the automatic angle adjustment of the engine and lift fan, making it highly secure and accurate.

Although the F135W-600 engine with the F-35B's Lift System will have a high heat emitted from the jet pipe, it is much higher than the Rolls-Royce Pegasus F402-RR-408 Turbofan engine of the AV-8B Harrier II. Until significant, therefore it is not that the size will make the deck fly easily in which to fly up or land on the helicopter carrier. The jet from the engine will not blow down the deck straight forward for a long time including the renovation of new flight decks, such as coatings, urethane coating, additional heat-resistant formulations and painted a new mark on the floor. The runway had time to follow the cycle, such as the landing craft ship, the helicopter, the Wasp (LHD: Landing Helicopter Dock), which was previously active. The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) project will take place, then completed the operation with the F-35B. In the operation with the AV-8B before that, the deck had burned a long way before.

(AAG)

59 komentar:

  1. Ya gak papa kalo kuat duitinnya..😰

    Fiuuuuuhh..😫😫😫

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    Balasan
    1. Dan kalau diperbolehkan....

      Kegeden empyak kurang cagak...

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    2. Qiqiqi...
      Kalo beneran jadi, mesti modif banyak tuh kapal..😁

      Ntar battle groupnya kek es campur :
      - CV made in Spain.
      - KS made in China.
      - Fregat made in Korsel.
      - Heli & Fighter made in US.

      😁

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    3. Baru ngeh...ternyata thai pernah punya pesawat gendut corsair jg y...😲😲😲

      Sexy ne pwat...πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

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    4. Gosipnya ini kapal bukan kpal induk semestinya...aka yach kerajaan...πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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    5. Model Corsair mirip pesawat purwarupa saingan F35 dulu yaa ? Lupa namanya tapi modelnya lucu kayak bebek gitu.. πŸ˜€

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    6. Muat berapa ekor f35b tuh kapal kecil ? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

      bener omonge mas panji, kegeden empyak kurang cagak.
      wong gawe mlaku ae wes kabotan πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
      nasibe muk dadi den den manuk

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    7. selera,gengsi,kepinginan duwor...bondho kurang. mending koyo aw dewe alon2 sing penting tiap tahun ono tuku barang anyar aee...

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  2. Kalau punya duitnya..mendingan bikin baru lah..Chakri Naruebet Ini kekecilan until F-35B.
    Udah di check sama Italia, minimum harus punyanya deck 230-240 meter. Makanya Italia bikin LHD baru yg 250+.

    Lagian punya Carrier itu harud mikirin operational Carrier Group secara keseluruhan. Ini Kapal Induk Thailand kebanyakan juga nongkrong di pelabuhan.

    Lebih baik duitnya bikinin Frigates yg lebih mumpuni.

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    1. Ini bukan kapan induk kaless....

      Ini yach milik kerajaan sono...πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…

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    2. Jadinya ntar cari ribeut sendiri ni kapal

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  3. Thailand sepertinya relatif tdk ada masalah pertahanan yg serius dari luar, mrk mgk lebih punya masalah domestik sprti masalah politik dan gejolak di thailand selatan. Dasar rasionalnya apa utk memghidupkan armada kapal induknya?

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    Balasan
    1. yahh.. mungkin msh bnyak duit kali om.. warisan dr Raja yg lama, sayaang klo g d blanjain😊

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    2. Lha, kan pernah bentrok ama Kamboja.

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    3. Sekarang thailand sering punya masalah dengan negara selatannya yg sering menceroboh perbatasan.

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    4. Bentroknya sama negara tetangga yg berbatasan darat, lebih rasional beli tank, heli attack atau pesawat kaya A-10, Su-25 buat combat support.
      Kapal induknya buat apa? Kecuali mau nggeruduk lintas laut jarak jauh.. Mgk Kolinlamilnya perlu kapal induk.

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    5. Heran juga yaa negara bukan Blue Water Navy tapi punya mothership ? Apa lebih kepada pembelian Prestige supaya terlihat lebih wah ?

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    6. Ini cuma gengsi kerajaan sono mas...banyak d kritik kok sm pengamat luar sono...

      Lebih banyak nongkrong d pelabuhan sm buat piknik kerajaan...


      Jom songlap

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    7. Penghargaan kpd keluarga Cakhri, keluarga dinasti kerajaan

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    8. Ooh iya inget.. ada istilah Thaitanic Ship.. ini kayaknya maksutnya kapal pesiarnya ya ?????

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    9. Betulll mas super...


      Thaitanic ini dia barangnya...πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…

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  4. Prefer modifying the ship for heli squadron purpose. Get 2 Chinooks, 4 Blackhawks and 8 Apaches are the best option available since utilising the F35B series will surely has to put some "big money" to replacing the deck with high grade materials which is not visible at diz moment.

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    Balasan
    1. Setuju mas...

      Lebih masuk di ongkos dan spek ukuran kapal yg nanggung...

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    2. Jealous of Thais.

      Indons Ompong Aircraft Carrier made by PT PAL Using TONG-TONG 400HP Piston Type engine.

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    3. Poor Malaydogsial jealous Because use banana boat as aircraft carrier

      Kih kih kih

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  5. Hai mas Paul.. Congrats yaa..
    Berita terbaru hari ini.

    https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/462102

    Jangan digugeltranslator yaa arti kata "ILLIST" nanti kamu sedih.

    BalasHapus
    Balasan
    1. Upss maksute ILLICIT 😊

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    2. Ya udah deh biar mudeng saya kasih yg versi bahasa melayu.

      Janji lho ya abis baca gak boleh nangis ?? 😊

      https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/462111

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    3. Dedengkot uang haram se Asean..πŸ˜‘

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    4. Sstt.. negara islam itu mas.. kamu jangan gitu ah...

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  6. pengganti KRI Multatuli sebagai kapal komando dan flagship enaknya pake LPH landing platform helicopter
    Hwihihi

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    1. semacam kelas Hyuga nya Jepang dgn tonase 19,000 tons full load cocok tuh bung jadi tempat hinggapnya chinook kan udah botol pulpen operasi militer selain perang dan penanggulangan bencana
      Hwihihihi

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    2. Desain LPH yg dikekuarin PAL lumayan jg dimensinya...panjang 244M.

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    3. jelas ada dek hangar tuh dan butuh teknologi dek elevator

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  7. 9,000 tons of Navy ships burned by malaydogsial 😁
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w6CAASvtVd8&t=21s

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  8. Jadi artikelnya cuma membahas/analisa pemakaian Chakri Naruebet sebagai kapal induk yang mungkin bisa mengangkut F 35B?
    Terlepas dari realistis tidaknya, mampu tidaknya Thailand dalam mengakuisisi F 35. Tetap saja menggunakan Chakri Naruebet apalagi sampe dipertahanin walau sudah bertahun-tahun tidak mengangkut pesawat, itu mungkin kurang bijak.
    Kapal ini terlalu kecil dan desainnya kurang bagus untuk Multirole, karena memang didesain untuk mengangkut Harrier, dan selepas Harrier pensiun, kapal ini hanya bisa mengangkut Helikopter dan itupun terbatas.
    Apabila Thailand masih mau memiliki kapal yang punya peran sama dengan Chakri Naruebet, lebih baik membeli/membuat LHD yang baru dengan deck flat saja.

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  9. AGAIN INDONS IDIOT ARE JEALOUS.


    KIKIKIKI

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    1. Low IQ malaydogsial crying like women can't accept reality because all asean country always shoping 😁

      Kih kih kih

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    2. Ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong



      Miskin
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  10. Why Idiot Indons called as the most JEALOUS nation in Asean?

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    1. At time when all ASEAN countries are shopping.. poor Malaydogsial crying because they are poor πŸ˜‚

      Kih kih kih

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    2. Ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong



      Miskin
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      Tejas
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  11. Due to Jealousy of Idiot Indons, they will also build their own Aircraft Carrier called as Ompong. They will build their Ompong Aircraft carrier in their own PT PAL.



    Kikikiki



    INDONS OMPONG AIRCRAFT CARRIER IS POWERED BY TONG-TONG 400HP Piston Type engine.




    Wkwkwkwk

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    1. when all ASEAN countries make sophisticated warships, poor Malaydogsial buys ompong low spek plastic ships from china with 25 year soft loan πŸ˜‚

      Makes all asean country laught 😁

      Kih kih kih

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    2. Ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong



      Miskin
      miskin
      miskin
      miskin
      miskin
      miskin


      Tejas
      tejas
      tejas
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  12. Idiot Indons cant accept that Thais will purchase F35.




    Kikikiki

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    1. When Thai,indonesia,singapore,vietnam,philipina,laos,mynmar buy new sofiscated Fighters

      Poor malaydogsial only use kite πŸ˜‚

      Kih kih kih

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    2. Ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong
      ompong



      Miskin
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      miskin
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      Tejas
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