18 April 2018
Tigon APC 6x6 (photos : Hanwha Defense Systems)
Hanwha Defence Systems, AVP unveil Tigon armoured wheeled vehicle
South Korean company Hanwha Defense Systems and Malaysia’s AVP Engineering unveiled the Tigon 6x6 armoured wheeled vehicle at the 16-19 April Defence Services Asia 2018 (DSA 2018) exhibition in Kuala Lumpur.
Based on Hanwha’s 6x6 Black Fox armoured vehicle, the Tigon is aimed at Southeast Asian and Middle Eastern markets, with the two partnering companies currently focused on offering the platform to the Malaysian Army (MA).
“The vehicle can function as an armoured personnel carrier [APC] by accommodating up to 11 personnel, including a driver, a commander, and a gunner, and is capable of carrying out missions as part of an army’s mechanised infantry units,” a Hanwha Defense Systems official told Jane’s.
The Tigon, which will soon undergo trials with the MA, can be armed with various weapon systems, with the platform at DSA 2018 being shown fitted with a 12.7 mm remote weapon station (RWS). The vehicle can also be armed with two other types of RWSs to fit either a 30 mm machine gun or a 90 mm cannon.
The new vehicle is not only heavier (between 21 tonnes and 22 tonnes depending on the selected armament) than the Black Fox (18 tonnes), but also features an increased level of protection against machine gun fire, mines, and improvised explosive devices, said the official, without providing further details.
(Jane's)
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Better to stay focus on AV8 Gempita which has better capability in all aspects than diz 6x6 vehicle, acquiring a new model will potentially bring problem expanding in sparepart inventories... dont waste your money on sumthin you already have.
BalasHapusOr maybe They want to replacing the Condor or Sibmas ? Lets say it just promotional gimmick... just like on how every producent promoting their product to all their customers.
Kalau di malaysia kdg2 pembelian alutsista dipengaruhi oleh elemen lain mas,contohnya politik,kroni,org tengah dll..Inilah penyakit yg sukar hendak diubat..jd ini menyebabkan kehendak ATM tidak dipenuhi sepenuhnya akibat campurtangan elemen lain..seperti kenderaan ini ia dibawa masuk/dipromot oleh syarikat malaysia (agent) yg belum tentu ada kepakaran teknologi yg lebih baik seperti Deftech.
HapusCondor gak akan diganti lg bahkan akan diupgrade kerana jumlahnya lumayan banyak..ada 400 lebih..tp kalau sibmas ane gak pasti..pernah dgr juga akan diupgrade tp jika ada budget.
HapusMas TK,
HapusPengaruh politik seperti itu biasa, bahkan di US pun, contohnya proyek tanker Pegasus US vs MRTT.. :D
Sepanjang masuk akal & bisa dikompromi oleh user, gak masalah, demi kemajuan produk lokal.
Yg buruk itu jadi downgrade dari keinginan user, demi keuntungan kroni, yg banyak terjadi dimasa lalu RI.
Tapi jaman sekarang, jangan berani lagi kayak gitu, kalo ga pengen masuk bui... :p
Pengadaan AMX10, Hawk, Scorpion, Gromm..itu contoh zaman gelap pengadaan masa lalu dimari... :(
tigon platform yg bagus.. tapi kenapa mesti ganti. deftech lebih mature dlm hal ini. tetep gempita lah
HapusIa mungkin hanya industrial rumour atau dgn kata lain lobi-melobi oleh agent..tiada statement dr pihak tentera darat lg ttg ketertarikan terhadap perolehan 6x6 tigon buat masa ni..dulu pun caesar sph 155mm pernah dtg ke malaysia utk trial tp gak ada pembelian yg dibuat..dgn budget yg ketat mungkin akan upgrade condor je dulu.
Hapus
HapusBetul bro di malaysia penyakit sukar ubati politik,kroni,org tengah,
Penyakit senjata amerika pula
senat,Lobby ,koroni dan hak asasi
Penyakit senjata euro ,
Undang-undang kesatuan europan,hak asasi ham,
Penyakit senjata rusia
Sukar dapat spare part
Penyakit senjata indonesia
claim buatan anak bangsa
Rasuah senjata
Curi ayam jual ke pasar
Ada kemungkinan menggantikan sibmas. Deftech dah dpt projek AV8 Dan upgrade condor. Bagix2 Kat syarikat tempatan yg lain untuk maju. Jadi mereka x dilibatkan. Mcm bousted Dan destini. Deftech Ada plan mereka sendiri.
HapusPenyakit orang malaysia ;
Hapus-Rasuah
-Praktek org kerajaan yang tersangka rasuah tak dapat ditangkap
-ngaku buatan tempatan spt kasus gempita yg terdaftar d Sipri
-suka geser patok perbatasan, it semua penyakit org malaysia
Org lg diskusi enak" dtng maha kempet langsung bikin masalah.
Hapus@tentara
Hapus"Been There Done That"
We severed the same condition like youve said in previous years. In the past, our government choosing the wargears sometimes without the recomendation from user itselves.
There are some samples like AMX tank case or maybe AW helis case as @Palu said "The most lonely and beautiful Heli in SEA" :-D
Its all due to almost no coordination between users and fund holder (goverment). Dats why corruption always tend to stand between the contracts.
Currently, Our government (since 3 years ago if I'm not mistaken) now has keen and will to eliminates those chances (corruptions) by making new Department under responsible and control by KPK (Anti Corruption Body). I forgot the name of this new department, something like a name "PPI" or else, so now all of the acquisition of the new assets should get approval from PPI and they also have Audited every year (sumthin we never did before in the past).
So there is additional "obstacle" for "bad guys" side to seek a chance to corrupts like they have did before. PPI under KPK is the new strategy from government to make sure all transactions is in fair and square methode.
Looking on how many suspect persons been persecuted and trial during MRSS Philipine and AW Helis transaction is enough to say dat our government now has willing to change the system to a better one.
I hope Malaysia also do it the same thing, to carefully watch all the transactions by empowering anticorupption body dept (if any) and includes them in every aspects of wartrades.
Now you understand why we took so long for SU-35 acquisition right ? not only because of trade-in payment methode but also now we have PPI as the "Guardian" among transactions :-D
@ Nash
HapusIts a good will if goverment using local fabricator to built their own vehicles but also bear in mind too, all the TOTs (whatever) always inline with increament of cost. Dats the rule of the game.
So I think, making more Gempita's probably the better option rather than put and spare your additional money for somethin dat below your capabilities, you guys already made some 8x8 then go backward for making 6x6 series ? Diz is quite strange.
Taking your tax payer money into something your country never made before, for example : Helis or maybe LPD ships is much much better for your national strength in the future.
Thanks for good discussion Nash. Appreciate dat.
Mau lawan anoa nih 6x6..wkkwkkk
BalasHapusYang ini dah bisa berenang dari lahir mas... :D
HapusYa betul om anoa mesti di design ulang biAr lebih modern...hehheehee
HapusTapi akhir2 nih lumayan lah senang dengar malay mau shoping...Jf17,MRSS skrg Tigon semoga terealisasi bukan project "AKAN" Good job for malay.
BalasHapusSemua baru perancangan om..rumour di ajang dsa 18 saja..yg jf17 tu dikatakan hanya cakap2 industri utk melobi,kalau tigon 6x6 pun begitu..mungkin hanya melobi seperti caesar sph 155mm dulu yg pernah trial di malaysia..belum ada statement dr atm sendiri tp jika terealisasi alhamdulillah.
HapusYg mungkin jd hanyalah mrss,nsm & mica utk maharajalela,m109a5+ dan nexter lg1 105mm howitzer..semuanya berita lama..
kalau mrss ya sudah ada statement dr tldm di mana dua buah akan dibeli,dana juga sudah diluluskan namun bila dikucurkan belum pasti..dan skrg ini dlm proses pemilihan design..mungkin ada sbb kenapa mrss ni sudah lama tertangguh..dr zaman kd sri inderapura terbakar lg..hehe
I dont know, but maybe FA-50 is much better than JF-17... so if your TUDM want to replacing the Hawks why not put the FA series in the options table ?
HapusIts light, lethal and have low maintenance cost....
Imagine if Malaysia also using FA series like their current neighbours, we can practicing among ASEAN nations with the same type of jets just like Indonesia did with US and SING... diz is gonna be a good step for sharing the knowledges and maximising potential aspects among ASEAN jet fighter Pilots.
But its up to your goverment to choose. FA-50 might be expensive, taking buying scheme for half squadron (8 planes) at first then go for second batch in 5 years to come could be best scenario rather than have 1 squadron JF-17.
IMHO
Dulu katanya maloner anti 6x6 dan ngenyek produk pindad anoa 6x6, lah sekarang kok nelan ludah sendiri
BalasHapussejak bila...??? bagi info tu nak juga saya baca yang Malaysia anti 6X6....
HapusItu dulu bung, ane lupa lagi linknya.
HapusDia bilang 6x6 tidak stabil dimedan offroad.
Btw... baguslah kalau malay ngambil juga 6x6
Some experts says, when you wanna put 105mm turret above your vehicle then you must have 8x8 wheels or tracked wheel underneath your chassis.
HapusBasically in my tought, as @ Essen said could be right.. unstable during firing probably one of the main factor why 6x6 seems like unproper to bring the heavy guns..
But for RWCS or maybe maximum 90mm like we did in Anoa and Badak, 6x6 platforms is in their max.
So its all depends on defence and war doctrines every country which is not always the same with others.
6X6 is good, but when you have 8X8 its much better because you have the best basic option platform to put whatever you want, from RWCS, 90mm, 105mm or maybe 120mm.
Nah bner tuh, knp gk FA aj. Koq malah mw ambil JF Sulfur
HapusRanpur 6x6 itu cocok buat di Indonesia, manuvernya dapet gitu loch. Dilengkapi pandurII yang dijadikan pengembangan platform 8x8 untuk tni. Salam NKRI
HapusBentuk tigon keren euy....
BalasHapusBentuk yg futuristik kyk gni harusnya dicontoh pindad..biar laku dijual ke luar negeri..
Model anoa mirip alutsista jaman perang dingin vab reanult jg pandur I 6x6
Ni aku nak tanya elok2 la..katanya...negara mdunia skrg eksport weapon & produk2 pertahanan lain..produk2 negara mdunia laris di pasaran..
BalasHapusada sesiapa y boleh bagtau..berapa percent dari total belanja pertahanan asean yg dah dikuasai firma dari negara mendunia..kalau boleh tunjukkan jugak dh sumbang berapa percent gdp kat negara mdunia..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwffy8OF-wA aku mau tanya vidio ini anak kerokan selingkuhan rosmah
Hapushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZsTcvLbpk mau tanya ini anak kerokan selingkuhan rosmah
Hapushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YstaajakYrI mau naya ini anak kerokan selingkuhan rosmah
Hapushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPUpkFL-HeE naya ini anak kerokan selingkuhan rosmah
Hapushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW4_-wqzhis mau naya ini juga anak kerokan selingkuhan najib ehh jadi suka sama najib nih kerokan dari selingkuhan rosmah ke selingkuhan najib
Hapuskesian ko dimas...xmampu jawab yer...xmampu xper la..main jauh2 sana...kihkihkih
HapusYg pasti singapore n indonesia ada telah boleh eksport senjata walaupun masih blm banyak,step by step slowly but sure...
HapusAq nak cabar bg sesiapa bagi tau negara mendunia yg terus tipu2 ada eksport senjata,boleh tunjuklah
Komentar ini telah dihapus oleh pengarang.
Hapusitu dulu di jawab ntar w kasih tau jaban nya anak kerokan
Hapushaduh mat don..aku tanya negara ko..bukan singapore..aku dah tau pasal singapore...bagi la data yg le ih jelas dari skadar cakap ko tu..
Hapuswoii itu dah banyak link w kasih di jawab
HapusWong pekok kok d gabe mas....
HapusPercuma d kasih link ga d baca...
Pdhal d youtube banyak...mbah google banyak....eit dah...mungkin doi lgi kismin bro g bisa belipulsa...😆😆😆😆
AP @ Kan dah aq cakap step by step slowly but sure,Cem mn negara ko lon
HapusDimas@ tak lah dijawab Beruk AP lah tu bro,dia tuh troller sejati,suka mereka2,pasal troll indonesia ngadu2 ke australia dia pun hantar,mn beri bukti dia pun bengap,cem beruk lah tuh
Hapushahaha iya mat tau saya si anak kerokan cuma bisa bacot sama pupi yang nyebok ka rosmah dan om najib
Hapuskamu ni mat don..progress slow pun takkan takde data..aku tanya yg dah terjual..aduyai..ko ni bebal sgt dah kenapa..
HapusAP@ percuma aq hantar yg dah terjual,aq hantar pun ko nanti tak paham dan akan troll,ko kan beruk manalah ko paham
Hapusbasically,negara mendunia ade market yang limited di pasaran asia dan afrika.tu pon sebab CASA,kalau design sendiri punya tak nampak lagi....
Hapuslupa nak tambah,anoa dia setakat nie timor leste je pakai tu pon armed dengan water cannon je...bangla,nepal ,brunei(dah beli vab apc original) setakat nie cuma interested sahaja.....
Hapusmat don..sebab aku tak paham la aku nak tau..setakat ni aku tak jumpa lagi maklumat pasal ni..kalau ko betul2 tau,share la..ape yg ko takut..
Hapus1 firma ko (pindad) tu develop macam2 produk..semua ko kata buatan anak bangsa..bukan murah tu kos r&d..takkan ko xnak share data jualan..share la bro..takkan lepas satu satu produk keluar tapi xnak bagtau dah jual berapa..
Tu lah kalau suka mabuk cukai judi Malon Malon ini tak mau terima kemajuan Jiran nya.. bagaimana pun CN 235 tetap punya nama indonesia.. Kapal LPD yang di ekspor ke Philipina tetap produk indonesia.. Malon BENGAP cukup bangga dengan ekspor dadah dan teroris ke seluruh dunia 😅😅😆
HapusMyms@ cn235 tuh hasil kolaborasi bersama PT DI dan CASA,itu bkn hanya kerja CASA sendiri sahaje
HapusSetakat nih indonesia dah berjaya eksport rifle SS2,rocker warhead,RHIB boat,amunition,anoa,uniform askar,SSV/LPD,CN25...tengok sikit negara ko dah eksport weapon apa sahaje
AP@ CN235,rifle S2 dan SPR3,uniform askar,anoa,boat RHIB,Amunition,rocket warhead,SSV/LPD...tengok sikit malon dah berjaya eksport apa
Hapuswill.....tempatan...duit kopi....songlap kih kih
BalasHapuseh you....cakap harga 6 x 6...sekian...kite dapat duit kopi 500 peratus....kirim malam hari yer....nanti kita nak tempek stiker deftech....sure tempatan...
BalasHapusHahaha tempatan negeri khayalan
HapusNanti negara penuh tipu2 akan claim kereta ni buatan tempatan Wkwkwk
Hapus😁😂😂😂😂😂😂
HapusLiat profil deftech di yutup cuma MRO + ngerakit setelah itu ganti stiker...wkwkkwkkk
HapusOne of the most powerful armed forces are Asean countries. Good works our Malaysian brothers.
BalasHapusini tigon ambil basis dari black fox alias tarantula ..
BalasHapushttp://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1467.html
tarantula 6x6 tni ad, tinggi beud
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/3a/06/1f3a0683f13ea300b86572a4c4a5eb8b.jpg
pada tau badak 6x6 kan? haha!🤗🤗🤗
badak..wess ada om windu cink haha!😉😉😉
kyknya pak indodefense 2014. hadiirrr jugak cink, tp blom knal ama om botak ganteng haha!👍👍👍
http://www.armyrecognition.com/indonesia_indonesian_wheeled_tactical_armoured_vehicles_uk/badak_fsv_90mm_fire_support_6x6_armored_vehicle_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html
jgn lufa badak pasti gak bakal ada di SIPRI bukan SUPRI bagian impor oke oceh👌👌👌
kcuali buat expor, pasti ada nama kitah ole oleee haha!👍👍👍
@ PG tau gak om TIGON kepanjangannya apa..Tiger Lion sadis namanya....Harimau Hitam aka Black Tiger ngeri...tapi kalau namanya Gempita itu apa ya...wkwkkwkk
Hapusgempita anakanya gading & gisele om tupez haha!🤣🤣🤣
Hapusbrowsing gugel dech, gempi lutu nan imut cocuwiitt cuwiitt haha!🎉🎉🎉
Steady malaysia 👍👍👍
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